On a newly launched podcast with her brother, former First Lady Michelle Obama shared personal stories about her life, according to The New York Times.

The show, called IMO, debuted on Wednesday, and its trailer offered a glimpse into Michelle’s marriage, just as speculation about her possible split from former President Barack Obama was making headlines.

Michelle said, “I couldn’t have gotten through eight years in the White House without my big brother,” reflecting on her time as First Lady from 2009 to 2017.

She went on to say, “… being married to the president of the United States [is a] thing that none of us kind of banked on. We knew Barack was smart and ambitious, but, you know…,” acknowledging the unexpected journey that came with her husband’s presidency.